Matt Richtel is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist for The New York Times and the author of the new book An Elegant Defense: The Extraordinary New Science of the Immune System: A Tale in Four Lives.

What you'll learn from this episode:

  • How seemingly unrelated conditions like cancer, autoimmunity, and even HIV are connected.

  • The true-life miracle Matt witnessed that led him to take a deep dive into the immune system's mysteries.

  • The word to listen for when you want to know if you're dealing with a legitimate immunologist.

  • Why you should be skeptical of products that claim to boost your immune system.

  • Specific tactics you can use to harness the power of the immune system to potentially protect yourself against the major modern diseases.

  • And much more!

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Resources from this episode:

An Elegant Defense: The Extraordinary New Science of the Immune System: A Tale in Four Lives by Matt Richtel

Matt's Website

Matt at The New York Times

Matt at Facebook

Matt at Twitter

Matt at Instagram

Varsity Blues

Nivolumab (Opdivo), Cancer Research UK

The Matrix

How the Immune Response Contributes to Homeostasis by David H. Nguyen, PhD, Sciencing

Your Environment Is Cleaner. Your Immune System Has Never Been So Unprepared. by Matt Richtel, The New York Times

Markers of Inflammatory and Immune Response, Biologic Markers in Pulmonary Toxicology, National Research Council

Anti-Inflammatory Diet 101: How to Reduce Inflammation Naturally by Franziska Spritzler, RD, CDE, Healthline

What is the Hygiene Hypothesis? by Alina Bradford, Live Science

What is Autoimmunity?, Johns Hopkins Autoimmune Disease Research Center

What is Lupus?, Lupus Foundation of America

What is Rheumatoid Arthritis?, Arthritis Foundation

Female Hysteria: 7 Crazy Things People Used To Believe About The Ladies' Disease by Catherine Pearson, HuffPost

The Blue Zones of Happiness: Lessons From the World's Happiest People by Dan Buettner

Blue Zones Secrets -- How to Live 100+ Years by Jillian Levy, CHHC, Dr. Axe

Too Clean for Our Children's Good? by Perri Klass, MD, The New York Times

The DEFCON Warning System

Why the Gut Microbiome Is Crucial for Your Health by Ruairi Robertson, PhD, Healthline

Sepsis Symptoms and Causes, The Mayo Clinic

Learning from the Elite by Bijal Trivedi, Nature


How to Optimize Sleep for Fat Loss and Better Health | Shawn Stevenson, The Genius Life 37

Stress Relievers: 70 Ways to Reduce Stress by Elizabeth Scott, MS, Verywell Mind

Understanding Immunotherapy,

Genius Foods: Become Smarter, Happier, and More Productive While Protecting Your Brain for Life by Max Lugavere and Paul Grewal M.D.

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